The Payday Loan Forum - Industry Development Through Community Out Reach
March 16, 2010, 04:34:56 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News: The Payday Loan Forum is now live!
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
 1 
 on: March 15, 2010, 06:15:04 PM 
Started by GRodriguez - Last post by GRodriguez
Payday Loan Industry Blog has some great articles, although Jer doesn't post very often (maybe 1 per week average, give or take) and some posts are really just a bunch of links to books he sells. 

I personally prefer the PaydayPundit for the most up-to-date, well researched "news-feed".  Not many articles, but links to great happenings in our industry.

And I do like your articles as well (www.pay1day.com) and I look forward to contributing there soon!

 2 
 on: March 15, 2010, 05:47:47 PM 
Started by GRodriguez - Last post by AlTheLoanGuy
yah i like Payday Loan Industry Blog alot also our own little blog  Grin

 3 
 on: March 15, 2010, 04:45:13 PM 
Started by GRodriguez - Last post by GRodriguez
A quick thanks to the Payday Pundit for posting this breaking news regarding the creation of the CFPA, from the Wall St. Journal Blog.... 
Quote
" Mr. Dodd’s bill would allow the Fed to examine any bank-holding company with more than $50 billion in assets, and large financial companies that aren’t banks could be lassoed into the Fed’s supervisory orbit.

    One of the most controversial aspects of the plan would see the creation of an entity within the Fed responsible for protecting consumers’ financial interests, such as credit cards and mortgages. The unit would be independent within the central bank and would have its own budget and rule-making authority.

    That has angered Republicans who have argued the Fed itself should retain responsibility for consumer protections, and doesn’t go far enough for many Democrats who wanted a completely new agency."

They went on later to clarify what constitutes a "large financial company"...

Quote
Examination and Enforcement: Authority to examine and enforce regulations for banks and credit unions with assets of over $10 billion and all mortgage-related businesses (lenders, servicers, mortgage brokers, and foreclosure scam operators) and large non-bank financial companies, such as large payday lenders, debt collectors, and consumer reporting agencies. Banks with assets of $10 billion or less will be examined by the appropriate bank regulator.

Any thoughts? 

 4 
 on: March 15, 2010, 01:47:10 PM 
Started by Remedy - Last post by GRodriguez
Well, payday loans are illegal in New York, but it sounds like you're not looking for a typical "Payday" Loan scenario so there may be some different local options.  Also, you could look on-line for loan as well.  Just be careful, there more complaints regarding on-line loans as compared to in person.  Just make certain to go through a reputable lender.

Hopefully someone will have some more info for you soon.

 5 
 on: March 15, 2010, 01:41:00 PM 
Started by FaceMan - Last post by GRodriguez
Quote
I think you made a very good point about not starting a business with too little money.

I think even more important than having enough capital, is taking the time, effort and MONEY to invest in yourself/your own business endeavor.  Sounds obvious, sounds easy, sounds like you'd be stupid not to....  You'd be surprised then, at how many people will avoid buying/reading a payday loan manual (front to back!).  Also, at how many will avoid sitting down and consulting with someone while attaining a license.  They think it's a waste of time and money.  I know as a consultant that most people are willing to spend TENS OF THOUSANDS on a hopeless quick-fix idea, rather than $500 on a few hours of consulting to find out what they may be doing wrong, or what they could be doing better.  It amazes me.  I can't yet figure out if business owners are afraid of what it may do to their ego to find out what mistakes they have been making, or if they're afraid of working any harder than they are and would rather throw $$$ at the problems and imagine that they go away. 

Where are you at?  Arkansas?

Quote
Would you think Florida or California would be better for this business?

I would encourage you to do some initial research and seek consultation before making any serious moves.  Also, know that there are always changes and developments to current state legislation.

You can keep an eye on developments at www.paydaypundit.org

Also the CFPA I believe, is being rolled into the existing Fed Reserve, but I'm not yet sure what that means for our industry.

Also, for some quick info on state laws....    http://www.debtconsolidationcare.com/paydayloan/explain-pdls-laws.html
But don't rely on the stats to be completely updated.  Call state regulators. 

 6 
 on: March 15, 2010, 01:28:42 PM 
Started by Remedy - Last post by Remedy
I am located in NY. Im currently looking for a Small Biz 60day loan for 1000-2500. Anyone deal with these?

 7 
 on: March 15, 2010, 01:13:16 PM 
Started by FaceMan - Last post by GRodriguez
Is there a corner of our industry or beyond that Trihouse hasn't already written the book on?  Literally.


 8 
 on: March 14, 2010, 10:15:57 PM 
Started by FaceMan - Last post by FaceMan
I always wondered why more payday loan people don't do title loans... As far as I know, you can charge more fees and the rate is lower.. but you have collateral

I see right when I hit http://www.automobilepawn.com/
"A wise car title loan operator will loan a maximum of 20% to 50% of the maximum dollar amount the vehicle would yield if sold quickly on the street. Read more"

I'd be very good at this.. I think that would be the key, not loaning too heavy. I love the car business and I'm a bit rusty but I can tell you what most cars would bring..... How do you explain to some guy that you can only loan a couple of thousand (if that) on his car that he insists is "Duh, it's ten thousand BOOK VALUE!".. do they get upset about that?

 9 
 on: March 14, 2010, 09:36:34 PM 
Started by FaceMan - Last post by FaceMan
Surely you guys set up an LLC, right?
And I really don't see why an LLC wouldn't be perfectly fine..

 10 
 on: March 14, 2010, 09:31:31 PM 
Started by FaceMan - Last post by FaceMan
Great questions! 

Quote
does this mean that you're going to have to "write off" (or what ever you call it) a good percentage of the money you put out in your first few weeks, or even months?
Yes, when starting a Brick and Mortar Payday Loan operation, you will generally have more write-offs at the beginning.  It's ok.  Don't ever start a business expect everything to go smoothly from day one, and don't start a business without enough capital to grow and learn.  It will take some time before you start making profits.  For example, one VERY common mistake for a new Payday Lender is to focus too heavily on underwriting, as opposed to just getting money on the street.  It's common that some lenders NEVER get away from that mistake (hey, they're just trying to protect their money!) and will never see the money they could have made.

Quote
Someone was telling me once that only about 5% of loans made (on average) go bad.. That's frighteningly high, but, not when you're charging 400%..

Make sure you know how to accurately calculate APR's.  400% APR on a 1 week loan differs greatly from that of a 2 week loan, and it differs GREATLY from say a 3.6% APR on a 30-year loan.  Know them all.  It's your money.  Play around with these... 
http://www.creditprovide.com/calculator/paydayloancalculator.html
http://www.efunda.com/formulae/finance/apr_solver.cfm

Quote
How can someone with bad credit who doesn't have the capital for a B&M location get started? Obviously, even operating out of my home I'd have to have a license.
I have seen postings in our classified section in the past where you could "borrow to lend" if you don't have the capital.  I have known (but would not outright suggest you to) people who have started by running out of a "home-office" WITHOUT licensing to get started.  Of course you would have to be uber-careful about collections, and....prepared for the consequences!

Quote
Do people really have hundreds or even millions on the street bringing back 200+% annual returns? REALLY?
Once again, it's not as if someone is taking out any of these loans ANNUALLY, so I would encourage you to do the following....

- Keep learning as much as you can! 
- Invest in yourself, by purchasing the "Trihouse Payday Lending" guide.  No joke, it's the industry standard.  You can get it here http://www.paydayloanindustry.com/ and feel free to tell him Gabe sent ya!!  Jer (the author) is a great guy, so feel free to drop him a line/email as well!
- I also offer consulting services, so if you are serious about getting this up and running, I would suggest investing in a few hours worth of hands-on consultation that way we can speak directly about specifics, you can learn more about your STATE LEGISLATION (one of the most important things we haven't covered yet), licensing and more. 

Realistically, the few hundred $$ you spend on getting the Trihouse guide and some one-on-one advice can save you literally thousands your first year alone.

Well, good luck and feel free to drop me an email if you need any more Payday Lending Info! 
gabe.rodriguez@synapticdatabase.com





I really don't think I want to deal with the consequences of a "basement operation"  Grin
I can only imagine what I could be charged with .. multiple felonies, I'm sure.
Especially if I was serious about collection  Cheesy

I think you made a very good point about not starting a business with too little money. I think I've read that 80% of small businesses fail within their first year and a very high percentage of them do fail due to being under funded.

I'd definitely be one who'd be more focused on "getting money out there".. I'd want to get as much as I could out, period.. I've seen the power of one month and installment loans and I love it..  Shocked

Another good point you've made... state laws and what regulations are in place. I would never want to do something like this in the ridiculous state I live in. Business owners here can't turn around and pee behind the building without being harassed, leaned on and shut down.

Would you think Florida or California would be better for this business?
It's going to take time for me to even be able to think about opening a store because I have to get some other things right in my life, first, but it's one heck of a goal to shoot for. The more I know about this business, the more it makes my heart race.. And it takes something pretty amazing to impress me. I've not had a b&m presence, before, but I've seen and done it all out on the street. I've bought and sold things all of my life. I love business, no matter what it is.

If it's something I can double my money on I'll buy it. If it's something I can get a good return out of I'll get into it. I don't know if you can have them in your state but look into quarter pushers. The ROI is just insane. It's ridiculous. You buy the thing for a grand and it can make up to $300 per week.

I had one and was ready to buy ten more and this state I live in decided to come in and confiscate them from everyone. They made a big production of running a bobcat over them on the news. I truly do live in the middle of h*ll. I did manage to save mine, though, and I had paid only $250 for it (which I got back before I had to take it down)... and then I had to sell it for $400

I never lose money on anything.. I just won't have any to work with for quite some time
I appreciate this opportunity to be on here learning about such a fascinating business!!

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.5 :: SMF hosting by SiteGround :: SMF © 2006-2008, Simple Machines LLC | Sitemap Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!